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I have a template on a table T1



T1



ID | Name
---|----------
1 | template1


Then I have some parameters that needs to be filled when someone use the template on a table T2



T2



ID | Template_ID | Params
---|-------------|---------
1 | 1 | @param1
2 | 1 | @param2
3 | 1 | @param3
4 | 1 | @param4


Table T3 link the template and the params with the specific values (if the user doesn't set a param, the table it will be filled with the default name, so the user can set it later)



T3



ID | Param_ID | Value
---|----------|---------
1 | 1 | xyz
2 | 2 | @param2
3 | 3 | 1
4 | 4 | @param4


So, i need to list the templates that have, at least, 1 param without a specific value, in only 1 line, but with this query:



select T1.Name, T3.Value
from T1 inner join T2
on T1.ID = T2.Template_ID
inner join T3
on T2.ID = T3.Param_ID
where T3.Value like '@%';


I got 2 lines as a result. The problem is, I have a system over oracle DB and I can't do my own queries or change the DB parameters, only select the columns of the tables (or use only this 4 functions max, min, sum and count over the columns) and the system do all the query by itself, so, I can't use big tricks on 'where' or 'order by' clause (force NLS_SORT as Binary, or use ROWNUM = 1, for example). So, my only idea is use another character instead of @ to identify the default params, to use MAX or MIN function over the T3.Value, but the character needs to be, for sure, the first or the last one in the WEST_EUROPEAN sort and I can't find anywhere which is the sort order of this. Can anyone help me?










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    I have a template on a table T1



    T1



    ID | Name
    ---|----------
    1 | template1


    Then I have some parameters that needs to be filled when someone use the template on a table T2



    T2



    ID | Template_ID | Params
    ---|-------------|---------
    1 | 1 | @param1
    2 | 1 | @param2
    3 | 1 | @param3
    4 | 1 | @param4


    Table T3 link the template and the params with the specific values (if the user doesn't set a param, the table it will be filled with the default name, so the user can set it later)



    T3



    ID | Param_ID | Value
    ---|----------|---------
    1 | 1 | xyz
    2 | 2 | @param2
    3 | 3 | 1
    4 | 4 | @param4


    So, i need to list the templates that have, at least, 1 param without a specific value, in only 1 line, but with this query:



    select T1.Name, T3.Value
    from T1 inner join T2
    on T1.ID = T2.Template_ID
    inner join T3
    on T2.ID = T3.Param_ID
    where T3.Value like '@%';


    I got 2 lines as a result. The problem is, I have a system over oracle DB and I can't do my own queries or change the DB parameters, only select the columns of the tables (or use only this 4 functions max, min, sum and count over the columns) and the system do all the query by itself, so, I can't use big tricks on 'where' or 'order by' clause (force NLS_SORT as Binary, or use ROWNUM = 1, for example). So, my only idea is use another character instead of @ to identify the default params, to use MAX or MIN function over the T3.Value, but the character needs to be, for sure, the first or the last one in the WEST_EUROPEAN sort and I can't find anywhere which is the sort order of this. Can anyone help me?










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      I have a template on a table T1



      T1



      ID | Name
      ---|----------
      1 | template1


      Then I have some parameters that needs to be filled when someone use the template on a table T2



      T2



      ID | Template_ID | Params
      ---|-------------|---------
      1 | 1 | @param1
      2 | 1 | @param2
      3 | 1 | @param3
      4 | 1 | @param4


      Table T3 link the template and the params with the specific values (if the user doesn't set a param, the table it will be filled with the default name, so the user can set it later)



      T3



      ID | Param_ID | Value
      ---|----------|---------
      1 | 1 | xyz
      2 | 2 | @param2
      3 | 3 | 1
      4 | 4 | @param4


      So, i need to list the templates that have, at least, 1 param without a specific value, in only 1 line, but with this query:



      select T1.Name, T3.Value
      from T1 inner join T2
      on T1.ID = T2.Template_ID
      inner join T3
      on T2.ID = T3.Param_ID
      where T3.Value like '@%';


      I got 2 lines as a result. The problem is, I have a system over oracle DB and I can't do my own queries or change the DB parameters, only select the columns of the tables (or use only this 4 functions max, min, sum and count over the columns) and the system do all the query by itself, so, I can't use big tricks on 'where' or 'order by' clause (force NLS_SORT as Binary, or use ROWNUM = 1, for example). So, my only idea is use another character instead of @ to identify the default params, to use MAX or MIN function over the T3.Value, but the character needs to be, for sure, the first or the last one in the WEST_EUROPEAN sort and I can't find anywhere which is the sort order of this. Can anyone help me?










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      I have a template on a table T1



      T1



      ID | Name
      ---|----------
      1 | template1


      Then I have some parameters that needs to be filled when someone use the template on a table T2



      T2



      ID | Template_ID | Params
      ---|-------------|---------
      1 | 1 | @param1
      2 | 1 | @param2
      3 | 1 | @param3
      4 | 1 | @param4


      Table T3 link the template and the params with the specific values (if the user doesn't set a param, the table it will be filled with the default name, so the user can set it later)



      T3



      ID | Param_ID | Value
      ---|----------|---------
      1 | 1 | xyz
      2 | 2 | @param2
      3 | 3 | 1
      4 | 4 | @param4


      So, i need to list the templates that have, at least, 1 param without a specific value, in only 1 line, but with this query:



      select T1.Name, T3.Value
      from T1 inner join T2
      on T1.ID = T2.Template_ID
      inner join T3
      on T2.ID = T3.Param_ID
      where T3.Value like '@%';


      I got 2 lines as a result. The problem is, I have a system over oracle DB and I can't do my own queries or change the DB parameters, only select the columns of the tables (or use only this 4 functions max, min, sum and count over the columns) and the system do all the query by itself, so, I can't use big tricks on 'where' or 'order by' clause (force NLS_SORT as Binary, or use ROWNUM = 1, for example). So, my only idea is use another character instead of @ to identify the default params, to use MAX or MIN function over the T3.Value, but the character needs to be, for sure, the first or the last one in the WEST_EUROPEAN sort and I can't find anywhere which is the sort order of this. Can anyone help me?







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          Does list of functions you are allowed to use include LISTAGG? If so, it will return the result in 1 line. Here's an example:



          SQL> with
          2 t1 (id, name) as
          3 (select 1, 'template1' from dual),
          4 t2 (id, template_id, params) as
          5 (select 1, 1, '@param1' from dual union all
          6 select 2, 1, '@param2' from dual union all
          7 select 3, 1, '@param3' from dual union all
          8 select 4, 1, '@param4' from dual
          9 ),
          10 t3 (id, param_id, value) as
          11 (select 1, 1, 'xyz' from dual union all
          12 select 2, 2, '@param2' from dual union all
          13 select 3, 3, '1' from dual union all
          14 select 4, 4, '@param4' from dual
          15 )
          16 select t1.name, listagg(t3.value, ',') within group (order by t3.value) params
          17 from t1 join t2 on t1.id = t2.template_id
          18 join t3 on t3.param_id = t2.id
          19 where t3.value like '@%'
          20 group by t1.name;

          NAME PARAMS
          --------- --------------------
          template1 @param2,@param4

          SQL>





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          • It's a good solution, but unfortunately no, I can't use listagg, only the 4 that I mention
            – Alessandro Melo
            Nov 13 '18 at 10:26











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          Does list of functions you are allowed to use include LISTAGG? If so, it will return the result in 1 line. Here's an example:



          SQL> with
          2 t1 (id, name) as
          3 (select 1, 'template1' from dual),
          4 t2 (id, template_id, params) as
          5 (select 1, 1, '@param1' from dual union all
          6 select 2, 1, '@param2' from dual union all
          7 select 3, 1, '@param3' from dual union all
          8 select 4, 1, '@param4' from dual
          9 ),
          10 t3 (id, param_id, value) as
          11 (select 1, 1, 'xyz' from dual union all
          12 select 2, 2, '@param2' from dual union all
          13 select 3, 3, '1' from dual union all
          14 select 4, 4, '@param4' from dual
          15 )
          16 select t1.name, listagg(t3.value, ',') within group (order by t3.value) params
          17 from t1 join t2 on t1.id = t2.template_id
          18 join t3 on t3.param_id = t2.id
          19 where t3.value like '@%'
          20 group by t1.name;

          NAME PARAMS
          --------- --------------------
          template1 @param2,@param4

          SQL>





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          • It's a good solution, but unfortunately no, I can't use listagg, only the 4 that I mention
            – Alessandro Melo
            Nov 13 '18 at 10:26
















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          Does list of functions you are allowed to use include LISTAGG? If so, it will return the result in 1 line. Here's an example:



          SQL> with
          2 t1 (id, name) as
          3 (select 1, 'template1' from dual),
          4 t2 (id, template_id, params) as
          5 (select 1, 1, '@param1' from dual union all
          6 select 2, 1, '@param2' from dual union all
          7 select 3, 1, '@param3' from dual union all
          8 select 4, 1, '@param4' from dual
          9 ),
          10 t3 (id, param_id, value) as
          11 (select 1, 1, 'xyz' from dual union all
          12 select 2, 2, '@param2' from dual union all
          13 select 3, 3, '1' from dual union all
          14 select 4, 4, '@param4' from dual
          15 )
          16 select t1.name, listagg(t3.value, ',') within group (order by t3.value) params
          17 from t1 join t2 on t1.id = t2.template_id
          18 join t3 on t3.param_id = t2.id
          19 where t3.value like '@%'
          20 group by t1.name;

          NAME PARAMS
          --------- --------------------
          template1 @param2,@param4

          SQL>





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          • It's a good solution, but unfortunately no, I can't use listagg, only the 4 that I mention
            – Alessandro Melo
            Nov 13 '18 at 10:26














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          Does list of functions you are allowed to use include LISTAGG? If so, it will return the result in 1 line. Here's an example:



          SQL> with
          2 t1 (id, name) as
          3 (select 1, 'template1' from dual),
          4 t2 (id, template_id, params) as
          5 (select 1, 1, '@param1' from dual union all
          6 select 2, 1, '@param2' from dual union all
          7 select 3, 1, '@param3' from dual union all
          8 select 4, 1, '@param4' from dual
          9 ),
          10 t3 (id, param_id, value) as
          11 (select 1, 1, 'xyz' from dual union all
          12 select 2, 2, '@param2' from dual union all
          13 select 3, 3, '1' from dual union all
          14 select 4, 4, '@param4' from dual
          15 )
          16 select t1.name, listagg(t3.value, ',') within group (order by t3.value) params
          17 from t1 join t2 on t1.id = t2.template_id
          18 join t3 on t3.param_id = t2.id
          19 where t3.value like '@%'
          20 group by t1.name;

          NAME PARAMS
          --------- --------------------
          template1 @param2,@param4

          SQL>





          share|improve this answer












          Does list of functions you are allowed to use include LISTAGG? If so, it will return the result in 1 line. Here's an example:



          SQL> with
          2 t1 (id, name) as
          3 (select 1, 'template1' from dual),
          4 t2 (id, template_id, params) as
          5 (select 1, 1, '@param1' from dual union all
          6 select 2, 1, '@param2' from dual union all
          7 select 3, 1, '@param3' from dual union all
          8 select 4, 1, '@param4' from dual
          9 ),
          10 t3 (id, param_id, value) as
          11 (select 1, 1, 'xyz' from dual union all
          12 select 2, 2, '@param2' from dual union all
          13 select 3, 3, '1' from dual union all
          14 select 4, 4, '@param4' from dual
          15 )
          16 select t1.name, listagg(t3.value, ',') within group (order by t3.value) params
          17 from t1 join t2 on t1.id = t2.template_id
          18 join t3 on t3.param_id = t2.id
          19 where t3.value like '@%'
          20 group by t1.name;

          NAME PARAMS
          --------- --------------------
          template1 @param2,@param4

          SQL>






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          • It's a good solution, but unfortunately no, I can't use listagg, only the 4 that I mention
            – Alessandro Melo
            Nov 13 '18 at 10:26


















          • It's a good solution, but unfortunately no, I can't use listagg, only the 4 that I mention
            – Alessandro Melo
            Nov 13 '18 at 10:26
















          It's a good solution, but unfortunately no, I can't use listagg, only the 4 that I mention
          – Alessandro Melo
          Nov 13 '18 at 10:26




          It's a good solution, but unfortunately no, I can't use listagg, only the 4 that I mention
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